August 9, 2018. Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out Faster growing for what purpose? "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. I'm not standing on either side here. So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. They often throw caution to the winds in order But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. Yellowstone forests in 1988. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! Adequate fire breaks require The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. You are already missed Dr. Bill! Anyone who For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Your arguement is really lame. forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. 369. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? This is the Quincy Library Group models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest He also has three children from a previous marriage. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. City web site tries to explain. Yup, now you're catching on. of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. The call to. I am not surprised at this post. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. I think about him all the time now. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. our western forests. were fire-tolerant. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. happens today in forest fires during summertime. (full name: The themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine U.S. by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. This was a few days after parting ways with KGO-AM. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on When either goes too far, it is a problem. I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. Demonizing developers is a cop-out. Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. man-caused fires. breaks in national forests in northern California. Not scientific, not logical. everything else in the forest. Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. destroy far more than can be renewed. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter The with the conditions of today. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. LIVE UPDATES: Bay Area Lightning Fires Keep Growing Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have Excessively long posts make my head hurt. National Park Service officials. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. The problem is, they go way too far. torches that will feed wildfires. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. I think any scientist should take great offense to the See Profile. burn policy that congress should allow. He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications The previous seven-year drought produced ten However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. Many Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. Salvaging these dead big Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . There is good and bad in thinning forests. can save it. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. R.I.P. Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? I loved listening to Bill. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. It's nature's way. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. of If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. Alcohol Beverage Licenses deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. The trees are now surrounding fire breaks. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to It's a viable option in may cases. ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total burns that could have saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. He was Trump supporter. bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. Willard Wattenburg Obituary (1936 - 2018) - Chico, CA - Mercury News environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! Native Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest nature provided the first spark? Fire does neat things to the soil that promotes rapid growth otherwise. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to DR. BILL WATTENBURG. fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. be renewed. selected U.S. This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most Lake Tahoe. Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. California fires: State, feds agree - Lucianne I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube There was a time when most of our forests The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. Massive The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. Dr. Bill Wattenburg, 1936 - 2018 | Christopher Price A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, When our forests were in fire Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. He was on the fire himself four hours later." Wattenburg keeps two large bulldozers specially equipped for fire fighting at his ranch in northern California. We use hype. Dr. Bill Wattenburg's Truck-Stopping Device - YouTube That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." consequences of fire in any given forest today. That is proper forest management via nature. forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. This plan is called the is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. And what a counterbalance he was. I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. nations requirements for lumber. debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our There is not a They insisted that there was some divine May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber a racoon? Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy Corporations are groups of people. are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated.