Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. Want a great laugh? The machine shot out sparks. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. Light Commercial Heating & Cooling. They don't claim it will save you money. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. FACT: Nonsense. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us I have a Master of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, so I can tell you with precision that EdenPure's claims are false and misleading. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. Receive a $75 bill credit when you enroll your eligible smart thermostat in a qualifying demand response program through one of our authorized thermostat providers. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Ductless Heating & Cooling. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. You'll love it. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! Felt bad for the guy. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. Cellular shades can save you as much as 20% on your energy bill, too. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Burkett, Glenda Sue (Galena, MO, US) Application Number: 10/996346 . 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! Furnaces. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Always open. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. Everything is on the website and on the adverts. I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. Are Eden pure trying to rip you off. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. THINK ABOUT IT. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. P.S. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. I'll definitely buy another. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. Qualifying programs are: Capacity Bidding Program (CBP)* - available for residential customers. Ventilation Fans. The cost was going to be $10,000. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. Why oil-filled? Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. Hi everyone . The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. FACT: Of course it will. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. HOWEVERand this is where I have to now state after research of many heaters, this Gen4 costs .25 an hour to heat. It is great for days like today when the chill was just too much in the house, but it is not something you want to use consistently during the day and night. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. less per month power bill. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. Talk about a rip off. If it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, it is only delivering 8,000 btus. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. No repairs either. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). They are usually a rip-off. Glad I read all these posts before wasting my money on Edenpure though. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. If your electric company charges you 10 cents per kilowatt hour and you run a 1,500-watt space heater for 10 hours, that will cost $1.50. I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! Loves them! Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). Perrysburg, Ohio and go home with your product the same day. Thanks for the good info that saved me. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. So, for this is is great. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. ft. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. That's common sense. Best of luck. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! Oil heaters transfer heat by convection. up. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. You cannot beat basic rule of physics saying that energy does not come from nowhere, and does not disappear to nowhere. I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. Thanks. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. Some people still can't get it. Would i recommend them? If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). And stop blaming others if you buy the wrong product because you did't do your homework. Provideyour email and you will be updated with the latest events and deals. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. Common sense. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). Heating water accounts for approximately 15 percent of a home's energy use. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. Claiming an electric heater will reduce your energy bill at all is stretching the truth. They promote using zone heating to save money. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. long time no see stevo it took me ages to find it this is there contact, and some info ,ring them for advice ,say mick give you there number. Thank you for the validation. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. Burgers were wonderfully juicy, with the buns toasted on the flat top before assembly, so we got the full old fashioned greasy, buttery effect. Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. Even a child knows that hot air rises. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. Heat Pumps are the most cost saving product other than using a fireplace.The japanese use several heatpumps to heat their homes they use one system for living room another for bedrooms this helps lower energy bills. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. Common applications include space heating, cooking, water heating and industrial processes. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". Updating my comments on the EdenPure. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. For now it has a basic menu of hamburgers & wings. Publication Date: 05/25/2006 . Bob Villa uses the same deceptive wording as the company. That is the real savings. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. 600 Frontage Rd, Ripon, CA 95366-2003. Make the box sturdy enough to hold the weight of the unit. To calculate an approximate heater size for an outdoor pool, follow these steps: Determine your desired pool temperature. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. Jobinhoud: Voor een familiebedrijf in Ranst gaan wij op zoek naar een Customer Service Officer die zal fungeren als centraal aanspreekpunt voor onze klanten.Je helpt hen enthousiast verder bij vragen ivm het productaanbod, prijzen, bestellingen & klachten.Verder bestaat jouw takenpakket uit: Afhandelen van eigen dossiers (bestelbonnen aanpassen, lijsten opmaken, leveringen/retourbons inzetten,) These systems the japanese use do not use ducts!!! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. EdenPURE Classic CopperPLUS Heater $272.00 $399.00 Best Sellers EdenPURE 3000 Whole House Air Purifier by AirFree $299.00 $374.00 EdenPURE GEN50 Infrared Heater $297.00 $399.00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247.00 $447.00 EdenPURE Bio SpeedCLEAN Cordless Vac - Model XL200 $249.00 $299.00 EdenPURE GEN21 EdenPURE All Season Heater $279.00 $447.00 The first heater I got didn't run long before one of the elements went out. In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. I was told that I have 60 days trial and could return it back within 60 if I choose to, but that is not true. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? Heat is the movement of air molecules. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened.
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