2 engine "Thrust Reverser Not Locked" indication light. Changes were made to the wing, but during a test in July 1970, it failed at 125% of limit load. May . PROBABLE CAUSE: "Based on clear and convincing evidence, the Board President determined the primary cause of the mishap was the pilots' and flight engineers' failure to use the number three, fully operational, engine; the instructor's and primary flight engineer's failure to brief, and the pilots' failure to consider or utilize a 62.5 or 40% flap setting (instead of a 100% flap setting); and the pilots' attempt at a visual approach to runway 32, descending well below a normal glidepath for an instrument-aided approach or the normal VFR pattern altitude of 1,800 ft. ", "Air Force C-5 Galaxy modernization program certified. Thanks for stopping by. [15], Cost overruns and technical problems of the C-5A were the subject of a congressional investigation in 1968 and 1969. The instructor loadmaster was seated against the bulkhead facing rearward looking across the table at her two students. He could not tolerate criticism or slights of any kind. [76] The reliability of the C-5 fleet has been a continued issue throughout its lifetime,[77][78] however the C-5M upgrade program seeks in part to address this issue. The hot-brake imperative that seized the crew could have been overcome during the discussions of the emergency checklists that, catastrophically, were not run. Some of the few passengers and crew in the rear troop compartment initially thought the plane had merely made a hard landing. [91], On 13 September 2009, a C-5M set 41 new records and flight data was submitted to the National Aeronautic Association for formal recognition. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. It was supposed to fly to Ramstein Air Base in Germany, and was loaded with 47,700kg (105,000lb) of supplies.External link:Theleaked US military simulation of the C-5 crash from Dover air force base has been posted onto video file sharing site Veoh. These instruments presented a Throttle position indicator above an engine performance indicator. The Air Force received the last modified aircraft on 1 August 2018. [90] The C-5M reached initial operating capability (IOC) on 24 February 2014 with 16 aircraft delivered. ", "Pilot Performance Based Selection of Engine Display Features. All 17 people on board the C-5 survived, but three sustained serious injuries.Following a normal take-off and initial climb, the crew observed a No 2 engine Thrust Reverser Not Locked indication light. They shut down the engine as a precaution and returned to Dover AFB. He protested to the crew that this was unacceptable, that, as an emergency aircraft, he should have priority! [105], Lockheed also planned a civilian version of the C-5 Galaxy, the L-500, the company designation also used for the C-5 itself. A US military video animation of the final moments in the cockpit of the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy that crashed in April appears to have been leaked and is being shown on the internet.The animation with synchronised soundtrack from cockpit voice recorder clearly shows the errors made by the crew and identified in the subsequently released US Air Force accident report. Picture: Barry Goodwin . [44] Another part of the C-5 modernization effort is the Reliability Enhancement and Re-engining Program (RERP). In April 1989, the last of 50 C-5B aircraft was added to the 77 C-5As in the Air Force's airlift force structure. A local hospital says i has treated at least 10 people, some were reportedly able to walk into the hospital. [95] The last operational C-5A was retired on 7 September 2017. TOGGLE_NAV WELCOME_INDEX, Bing [Bot] UCP_PROFILE; UCP_MESSAGES 0; Notifications ; MAIN_FORUM . Outboard engines are torn from the wings. There was no reason to force an expeditious landing, especially for the A/Cs pet peeve of supposedly being slighted by approach control. One with a permanently injured back and the other is confined to a wheelchair due to no feeling below the knees. [51], The C-5 Galaxy is capable of moving nearly every type of military combat equipment, including such bulky items as the Army armored vehicle launched bridge, at 74 short tons (67t), from the United States to any location on the globe;[51] and of accommodating up to six Boeing AH-64 Apache helicopters or five Bradley Fighting Vehicles at one time. About ten minutes after takeoff the aircrew observed a No. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. [53], Takeoff and landing distance requirements for the plane at maximum-load gross weight are 8,300ft (2,500m) and 4,900ft (1,500m), respectively. The engineers were so flummoxed one did not realize they had the wrong flap setting, and did not catch the copilot briefing the wrong, full-flap, approach speed. C-5 Crash at Dover Hey all, After just flying through dover yesterday, it was pretty weird getting phone calls from friends and family asking if i was ok this morning.. Nobody knows what caused it ,but please say a prayer for the crews aboard. The first flight of a C-5 with AMP (85-0004) occurred on 21 December 2002. For a crew with several greatly experienced individual members, these obstacles should not have provided significant difficulty. [70] The C-5 Galaxy was a major supply asset in the international coalition operations in 199091 against Iraq in the Gulf War. The instructor loadmaster was seated against the bulkhead facing rearward looking across the table at her two students. During static and fatigue testing, cracks were noticed in the wings of several aircraft,[19] and as a consequence, the C-5A fleet was restricted to 80% of maximum design loads. As the left seat pilot confirms Flaps landing (100%) the copilot realizes the error of the wrong flap setting for the heavyweight landing. Plane on fire! The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. ", "Lockheed delivers first upgraded C-5M Super Galaxy. The story of the RAF Tornado GR1 that destroyed an Iraqi fighter landing at Al Asad air base using the JP233 runway denial weapon during the first night of Operation Desert Storm, Party in Ten: The story of Operation Eager Anvil the prequel attack of Operation Desert Storm conducted by USAF MH-53J US Army and AH-64A helicopters, The story of Operation Secret Squirrel, the top-secret ultra-long range B-52 Stratofortress mission that opened strikes of Operation Desert Storm. The last words are from the left seat instructor pilot: Bring it out of stick shaker (that warns of a stall). While it would be hard to confuse an engine failure between #1 and #4, it could easily be confused between #2 and #3, and it was. The cockpit, as previously state, hit the ground at 35 gs. They would have briefed and established a partial flap setting, a corresponding approach speed, the need for gentle flare before touchdown, had all cockpit crew in position, and had everyone on the same sheet of music. All 17 people on board the C-5 survived the crash, but three crewmembers were seriously injured when the aircraft stalled, hit a utility pole and crashed into a field about a mile short of the runway. [74] Instead of running and briefing several emergency checklists, such as landing with an engine shut down, landing heavyweight, and estimating landing brake temperatures, they suddenly found themselves on final approach. [86] Full production of C-5Ms began in the summer of 2009. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. We were first on the scene and first to broadcast it around. He has reported from Europe and flown Super Puma and Cougar helicopters with the Swiss Air Force. Not having thought of the possibility is attributable to us and the command for not preparing for such an event. ", "After 17 years of upgrades, the Air Force's biggest plane is ready to stay in the air for decades", "Congress Moves To Limit C-5A Retirement. He is also low to the ground, I presume to make sure he gets the plane on the runway expeditiously for his unwarranted fear of hot brakes on landing. Due to the whiplash effect of the tail contacting the ground first, the g-forces of the crash increased exponentially moving forward in the structure. Notices It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. Podwozie gwne maszyny jest czterogoleniowe, na kadej goleni jest 6-koowy wzek. ", "Galaxy wraps upgrades to become C-5M Super Galaxy", AFRL Seeks Drag-Reduction Technologies For Mobility Aircraft, "The Lockheed C-141 Starlifter & C-5 Galaxy", "C-5 Performance in Israel may spur Pentagon to order more. They were very heavy, and care would be needed to touch down gently to avoid gear damage or failure. The rest of the cockpit crew did not dispute this error or complain this was happening too fast. Thank God I wasn't on the jet that went down. ", "The Gulf airlift has moved only the tip of the spear. 8. Required fields are marked *. When I finally, emphatically, confronted him about his airspeed a short while later, he shoved in full rudder to side-slip the plane, ludicrously and ill-advisedly, to decelerate and to make me forget his momentary airspeed lapse. [106] Although some interest was expressed by carriers, no orders were placed for either L-500 version, due to operational costs caused by low fuel efficiency, a significant concern for a profit-making carrier, even before the oil crisis of the 1970s, keen competition from Boeing's 747, and high costs incurred by Lockheed in developing the C-5, and later the L-1011, which led to the governmental rescue of the company. His inexplicable throttle action provided a flashy maneuver to re-establish his prowess reputation despite the error he had made. A passenger loadmaster in the troop compartment slid down the emergency slide and walked forward to the cockpit to help one of the pilots painfully come down the crew ladder to the ground. There was no immediate word on fatalities. I'm not looking for anyone to name names .. etc. From 1969 to 1973, 81 C-5As were delivered to the Military Airlift Command of the U.S. Air Force. One of the thing's that might have kept the injuries light was intead of sitting like you do in a conventional airplane facing forward, you sit facing the rear in a C5. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. FlightGlobal is the global aviation communitys primary source of news, data, insight, knowledge and expertise. Melissa Phillips This caused the fuselage to crack at the bulkhead that runs through the wall at the rear of the bunk rooms in the crew compartment. The latest news is that the crew and passengers are okay. Thanks Mike that cleared up a lot of speculation on my part! [89] In October 2011, the 445th Airlift Wing based at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base replaced all remaining C-5s with C-17s. All 17 people on board the C-5 survived the crash, but three crewmembers were seriously injured when the aircraft stalled, hit a utility pole and crashed into a field about a mile short of the runway. everyone of those lost were friends of the family. Golden Boy senses what is coming and says, in profound understatement, Guys, Im concerned.. Television/web photo show the plane it be in two large pieces with the entire nose/cockpit area separated from the fuselage . C5 Crash at Dover Delaware AFB 2006 39,080 views Dec 13, 2011 84 Dislike Share Save B. Ash. The new glass cockpit configuration for the newM model C-5had been installed prior to adding the new engines to the airframe. ", "C-5 accident investigation board complete. Also, the wrong flap setting was used. Once the crew was tuned-up and attentive, the throttle mix-up probably would not have occurred, or, even if it did, would have been caught by an alert crewmember. Data from Quest for Performance,[128] International Directory of Military Aircraft,[129] and USAF fact sheet[130], 51,150USgal (42,590impgal; 193,600l), Aircraft of comparable role, configuration, and era, American heavy military transport aircraft. I don't recall many C-5's crashing since they joined the Air Force. 2006-08-16T15:20:00+01:00. Yeah I was looking at where it tore open Jimmy, being that is where a C5 loads at, it look's a lot worse than it really is, and hopefully everyone got out with just bumps and bruises. All of the designs had swept wings, as well as front and rear cargo doors, allowing simultaneous loading and unloading. ", "On Board Marine One, Presidential Fleet", "Strategic Airlift: Past, Present, and Future. We provide news, data, analytics and advisory services to connect the aviation community globally and help organisations shape their business strategies, identify new opportunities and make better decisions faster. Hed show them! The program features over 70 changes and upgrades, including the newer General Electric engines. We spent a lot of money to make it capable of operating from unfinished airstrips near the front lines, when we never needed that capability or had any intention to use it. [46][47] Three C-5s underwent RERP for testing purposes. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. However, he does not have enough speed to raise the flaps to 40% without stalling the aircraft. 55 subscribers C5 crash during takeoff. Yet, as we know, it did. [81][82] The last of 52 C-5Ms was delivered to Air Mobility Command in August 2018. They were also on three engines, so depleted power capability would be a vital consideration. The CX-X had a gross weight of 550,000 pounds (249,000kg), a maximum payload of 180,000lb (81,600kg), and a speed of Mach0.75 (500mph or 805km/h). Picture: Google It happened on the coast-bound side of the road, near Whitfield, and caused heavy traffic in the area.. c-5 crash landing avoidance scenerio, not intended as a joke, but as a trial attempt to improve the event, visually so far, as this is not simulated using a. Due to the whiplash effect of the tail contacting the ground first, the g-forces of the crash increased exponentially moving forward in the structure. Three C-5 Galaxy aircraft have been lost in crashes along with two class-A losses resulting from ground fire, with a combined total of 169 fatalities. [45], A total of 52 C-5s are contracted to be modernized, consisting of 49 B-, two C- and one A-model aircraft through the RERP. The other passengers and crewmembers sustained minor injures and were treated and released from local hospitals. ", "Vital US military technology has been lost to new Iranian regime. Lockheed delivered the first operational Galaxy to the 437th Airlift Wing, Charleston Air Force Base, South Carolina, in June 1970. But, to me, it makes sense to MARK the dead lever in some way. [30][31] After design and testing of the new wing design, the C-5As received their new wings from 1980 to 1987. This meant one of the mechanical locks on the reverse indicated unlocked. Fifty examples of the new variant were delivered to the U.S. Air Force from 1986 to 1989. 68-0227 crashed after over-running the runway at, On 31 July 1983, C-5A Serial No. The C-5 Galaxy crash at Dover Air Force Base, Del., April 3 placed the aging aircraft in the spotlight once again. They shut down the No. The French air force should receive 13 new Dassault Rafales during 2023, with Paris also expected to this year sign a production contract for its final tranche of the multirole combat aircraft. A firefighter hoses down the crash site of a C-5 Galaxy. i grew up on a Naval Air Station and remember when we had the rash of A-6e crashes. Following an incident during Operation Iraqi Freedom where one C-5 was damaged by a projectile, the installation of defensive systems has become a stated priority. (U.S. Air Force photo/Doug Curran), A firefighter hoses down the crash site of a C-5 Galaxy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. [84] As of November 2013, 45 C-5As have been retired, 11 have been scrapped, parts of one (A/C 66-8306) are now a cargo load trainer at Lackland AFB, Texas and one was sent to the Warner Robins Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC) for tear down and inspection to evaluate structural integrity and estimate the remaining life for the fleet. He is back on flying status. [citation needed], Following a study showing that 80% of the C-5 airframe's service life was remaining,[100] Air Mobility Command (AMC) began an aggressive program to modernize all remaining C-5Bs and C-5Cs and many of the C-5As. 125156. Lurking subconsciously were two distracting factors, the crews recent briefing on a hot brakes emergency a few months before, and the aircraft commanders personality quirk that would erupt at just the wrong time. No news on fatalities, I hope there are none. You're O-4 C-5 guy was wrong. [68] The C-5 remains the largest aircraft to operate in the Antarctic,[69] capable of operating from Williams Field near McMurdo Station. [108][109], United States Air Force 52 C-5Ms in service as of August 2018[110], Military Airlift Command/Air Mobility Command. This is especially true with only three engines. I updated some info in the original post if you are interested. The C-5B includes all C-5A improvements and numerous additional system modifications to improve reliability and maintainability. ", "The Mobility Traid and Challenges for the Operational Commander. [80] The first C-5M conversion was completed on 16 May 2006 and C-5Ms began test flights at Dobbins Air Reserve Base in June 2006. As they turned back toward Dover, many considerations had to be reviewed. So, he is now low and slow and does not have the power to recover on two engines. When practicing for three-engine procedures, we always used the worst-case scenario which would be an outboard engine, either #1 or #4. As the plane slid across the field, the fuselage began to break open at the bulkhead. [48] RERP upgrades were completed on 25 July 2018. They were very heavy, and care would be needed to touch down gently to avoid gear damage or failure. Low-rate initial production started in August 2009 with Lockheed reaching full production in May 2011;[citation needed] 22 C-5M Super Galaxies have been completed as of August 2014. Exceeds normal recommended peacetime max takeoff weight. They shut down the No. We are working every day to make sure our community is one of the best. My problem is that it's always interesting to speculate the cause. The plane belonged to the 436th Airlift Wing, the active duty unit at Dover, but was being flown by a crew from the 512th Airlift Wing, a reserve unit. He told approach control he would cancel instruments and land visually on runway 32. The aircraft crashed at 6:30 a.m. EDT, today, April 3, 2006, at Dover Air Force Base, Del., just south of the base flightline. Command spokespersons report 17 people were aboard as it went down short of the runway. Just when I thought you Americans had plane crashes with no sign of debris(911).Geeees, I guess it does happen.:-D. Incredibly no one was seriously injured on that plane, long as you don't consider being drenched in jet fuel injured. Power would be limited, so the partial flap setting, which involves less aerodynamic drag, which would require less power, would be demanded. This meant a partial flap landing should be made to ensure enough power was available to use for both the landing or if a go-around was necessary. This threw the cockpit crew, the pilots and flight engineers, into confusion. [63] The C-5 was regularly made available to support American allies, such as the British-led peacekeeper initiative in Zimbabwe in 1979. The aircraft was in the category of 551,200 to 661,400lb (250,000 to 300,000kg) with a takeoff weight of 649,680lb (294,690kg) including payload, fuel, and other equipment. Perhaps this knowledge drove him to excel in all other areas to mask this chronic weakness. [21] The Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Management Systems, Ernest Fitzgerald, was another person whose fostering of public accountability was unwelcome. [61][62] The C-5 Galaxy's performance in Israel was such that the Pentagon began to consider further purchases. The C-5B Galaxy, operating for the 436th AW, took off from Dover AFB (DOV) at 06:21 on its way to Kuwait. The "rest of the story" covering this event to follow, but two significant factors appeared. ", "C-5 A/B/C Galaxy and C-5M Super Galaxy fact sheet. While it provided more runway, it took away a precision ILS glide slope guidance. I sat on the initial crew debriefing after they had returned to Dover AFB. He helped him hobble to lay down against a tree on the side of the field. The time compression of the turn to final left everyone scrambling to catch up. 84-0059 crashed following a cockpit indication that the thrust reverser on No.2 engine was not locked. The novelty of the time is great, it is the C-5M Galaxy, the largest military [] In the early 1970s, NASA considered the C-5 for the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft role, to transport the Space Shuttle to Kennedy Space Center. With the C-17 program still some years from completion, Congress approved funding for a new version of the C-5, the C-5B, in July 1982, to expand airlift capacity. The other engineer did not even know the plane was on final approach. This, along with the inertia of a heavy aircraft at high speed, would require more runway length to stop the plane. The aircraft crashed at 6:30 a.m. EDT, on Monday, April 3, 2006, at Dover Air Force Base, Del., just south of the base flightline. Taking off in clear, unlimited visibility conditions just after sunrise, the aircraft turned toward the Sea Isle TACAN navigation station on the coast of New Jersey. Had he not done that, I estimate none of the resulting problems would have occurred. When practicing for three-engine procedures, we always used the worst-case scenario which would be an outboard engine, either #1 or #4. 2 engine Thrust Reverser Not Locked indication light. C-5 Galaxy Crash Landing at Istanbul Turkey Emergency Landing, Crash Landing! This information is not presented as the Flight Safety Foundation or the Aviation Safety Networks opinion as to the cause of the accident. The aircraft commander, Golden Boy, flew from the copilot seat, the assistant operations officer, an instructor pilot, occupied the pilot seat, and Golden Boys squadron commander occupied the jump seat. 69-0014, is on display at the, This page was last edited on 7 January 2023, at 08:43. As generals sometimes try to fight the previous war, this crew seemed worried about this previous accident. Yes, the storied accident chain of events had begun, heavy weight coupled with engine loss, but need not have gone farther. [5] All three of the designs shared a number of features. Someone needed insist on more time to get their act together, but no one did. The C-5 had a total all-up weight of 330,000kg (730,000lb), around 4,500kg heavier than usual landing weight and requring special landing procedures. 2 engine "Thrust Reverser Not Locked" indication light. Eventually, the fuselage section with her students wound up at a right angle to her and ten yards away. Suddenly the table and the students began retreating away from her as the fuselage began to open up. Come join the discussion about racing, builds, pro mods, hot rods, events, turbos, nitrous, superchargers, and more! [45] Their strategic airlift capacity has been a key logistical component of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. On final approach to runway 32, the airplane descended below the normal glide path. The loadmasterasked what had happened. A road was closed in both direction due to a jackknifed lorry. Factor #2 (In my view, the crucial, fatal error in the sequence) The aircraft commander became indignant at being delayed because of a ground problem with the fire trucks. Disputes arose almost immediately since this was a reserve crew with an active duty copilot, who was female. Early Monday morning a C-5 crashed as it approached Dover AFB, Delaware. The Air Force Research Laboratory is looking at shape-memory alloy for speed-dependent vortex generators. The C-5M had carried a payload of 176,610lb (80,110kg) to over 41,100ft (12,500m) in 23 minutes, 59 seconds. It is preliminary and is based on the facts as they are known at this time. 66-8303 was destroyed during a ground fire at the Lockheed Aircraft plant at, On 27 September 1974, C-5A Serial No. Military Aviation - C-5 GALAXY CRASH DOVER - Just seen the pictures on the news. The following story comes the last book of the trilogy, in progress: Flying the Line, an Air Force Pilots Journey, book three, Air Mobility Command, 1993-2004, in progress.. In retrospect, the training procedure should have been either to use all four throttles with one engine actually inoperative or to place the dead engines throttle forward on the firewall. You're O-4 C-5 guy was wrong. The flight deck from the C-5B crash at Dover AFB in April 2006 being loaded into another C-5. The right wing drags on the ground turning the fuselage right until the momentum shifts and the plane leans over on to the left wing. When I finally, emphatically, confronted him about his airspeed a short while later, he shoved in full rudder to side-slip the plane, ludicrously and ill-advisedly, to decelerate and to make me forget his momentary airspeed lapse. [51], The cargo hold of the C-5 is one foot (30cm) longer than the entire length of the first powered flight by the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk. [6] Lockheed's design featured a T-tail, while the designs by Boeing and Douglas had conventional tails.[7][8][9]. In some ways, our command training method contributed to this crash. [58] In the final weeks of the war, prior to the Fall of Saigon, several C-5s were involved in evacuation efforts. He protested to the crew that they should have landing priority regardless of the fire truck problems. It may not display this or other websites correctly. First, a previous emergency landing at Dover a year before seemed prominent in the crews deliberations. There is queuing traffic on the A226 London Road in Swanscombe between the high street and Craylands Lane. hope all is well with you. The queues at the Port of Dover on July 22 last year as the first day of the summer school holidays start. ", "Lockheed Martin delivers third C-5M Super Galaxy to United States Air Force. The four engine aircraft departed Dover AFB at 0621LT on a flight to Kuwait City with an intermediate stop at Ramstein Airbase, Germany, carrying 17 people, three passengers and 14 crew members. EDGE: A new global force in aerospace and defence, FlightGlobal Guide to Business Aviation Training and Safety 2021, Airline Business special: CEOs to watch in 2021, Theleaked US military simulation of the C-5 crash from Dover air force base has been posted onto video file sharing site Veoh, USA transfers third Lockheed C-130 to Niger, French air force to take 13 Rafales this year, as next order nears, Lockheed details low Hawk T2 availability rates that will push UK training overseas. Lurking subconsciously were two distracting factors, the crews recent briefing on a hot brakes emergency a few months before, and the aircraft commanders personality quirk that would erupt at just the wrong time. The C-5B Galaxy, operating for the 436th AW, took off from Dover AFB (DOV) at 06:21 on its way to Kuwait. You are using an out of date browser. That, unfortunately, can only be done by lowering the nose, which the pilot flying cannot do without crashing. To restore the C-5's full capability, the wing structure was redesigned. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. You can learn more about the cookies we use here, Airline Business Covid-19 recovery tracker. When performing the go-around, we had to leave that engine at idle, obviously, or it wouldnt bea three-engine go-around. Most significantly, this crew had been briefed on this incident the day before this flight. ", "Pentagon cancels re-engining of USAF's older Lockheed C-5s. JavaScript is disabled. Factor #1: The aircraft commander flying the plane in the right seat broke off from an instrument approach to runway 19 in favor of a visual approach to runway 32, the longer runway available to provide additional braking distance. As they approached that navaid about twenty miles from Dover, the Thrust Reverser Not Locked warning light illuminated on their instrument panel. 2 engine as a precaution and decided to return to Dover. After being one of the worst-run programs, ever, in its early years, it has evolved very slowly and with great difficulty into a nearly adequate strategic airlifter that unfortunately needs in-flight refueling or a ground stop for even the most routine long-distance flights. [40][41][42] The first C-5B was delivered to Altus Air Force Base in January 1986. The UK is so short of operational jet trainer aircraft due to an engine issue afflicting the Royal Air Forces fleet of BAE Systems Hawk T2s that it is having to send pilots abroad for fast-jet training. [24] The U.S. government gave loans to Lockheed to keep the company operational.[25]. For this crash, however, an inboard engine was out. 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