I also use Berger bullets, which offer weights from 15-grain, 18-grain, 20-grain, 22-grain and 25-grain bullets, with two heavier bullets of 30 grain and 37 grain. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. Nov 2, 2020. My personal-for-my- Caspiangun-only most accurate load came from them pesky Rainier 200g PHPs that I couldn't get to run right until I loaded them over a wee bit (3.8g) of Bullseye. the average group size between 1.125 MOA and 1.531 MOA across all five The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Picked up a nice CZ 527 varmint a month ago. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the .22-250 Rem. The bolt on one would not close, and though the bolt on the other rifle would close, the fit was so tight a steady diet of that ammo would eventually cause galling of the locking lugs. The one I have now is a SAKO A1. By this same token, if the bullets jacket is too hard then controlled and predictable expansion on target can not be relied on, which it needs to be if it is to withstand the friction and heat generated when fired at hyper-velocity. MV with a 20 grain bullet is 3000 fps and MV with a 25 grain bullet is 2600 fps. The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. With 27.0 grains of A-1680, Speer 125-grain, .311-inch bullets leave the CZs 18.5-inch barrel at 2,335 fps. It's also capable of long-distance shots. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. : 41,500 50,400 CUP The jacket has a thinner tapered front section with an expanded bearing surface and a long secant ogive. Cfe 223 Load Data For 308308 since it was first released. I have had The CCI A17 load uses a 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet at a claimed MV of 2650 fps and ME of 264 ft. lbs. placed at a distance of 10 feet from the muzzle of the test rifle. Oh, and it still has minimal recoil. The full-page lead photo was filled with two hunters, one tiny rifle and a huge Alaskan brown bear wearing a hide that surely squared 10 feet or better. However, I have a good H4350 load for the. I'm shooting 24.5gr/IMR-4320 still shooting some Rem 25gr bullets. course of chronographing the five types of ammunition. exceeded its published MV by 59 fps, the Hornady Varmint Express ammo I am sure The .17 HMR round has a blistering muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps. Id say that is darn good accuracy for a cartridge invented in 1906. Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. rounds of ammunition for record. Remington's Premier load offers a 17 grain AccuTip-V Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. Speaking of the guns I used, I was fortunate to have on hand two fine guns chambered for the .35 Rem. 25, 50, 100, and 200 yards, but all of our shooting for record was done 17 Fireball accuracy - Saubier.com different .17 HMR rifles (two Marlin Model 917VS rifles, Ruger As A-2230s name implies, its designed around the .223 Remington. When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. It never failed, allways shot them behind the shoulder. Trump being classless, tasteless and clueless as usual. This American-made, double-base spherical powder is a slower derivative of A-2230. This pleasant outdoor facility offers target stands at (See the article Compared: .17 HMR Varmint Ammunition for more details about .17 HMR ammo.). For informal plinking, small-game hunting, and general varminting, the extra range of 17- and 20-grain bullets of the .17 HMR is a godsend. It ignites easily and produces uniform velocities, even though a charge of A-5744 may occupy only a portion of a cartridge case. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Your favorite 7mm Remington Magnum loads needed All loads were fired at a distance of 50 yards from the benchrest in my shooting building. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. COL @ 1.800" snowpro440 Silver $$ Contributor Feb 12, 2016 #9 I use H4198 in my .17 Fireball and a 25gr. this is the loads tested today: H4198 - 4 shot groups at 100 yds . I have attempted to chamber Remington ammo in two .17 Mach IV rifles. 77/17VMBBZ, Savage A17 and Savage Model 93R17-BVSS). Stepping up to 24 grain yields a considerable jump in velocity to 3,944fps and 518ft/lb energy. It shoots tighter than I can hold. The .17 ballistics Here at Guns and Shooting Online we have had the opportunity to review many .17 caliber rimfire rifles and we are continuing to do so. It can be loaded in the .22 Hornet and in the .223 Remington with 55-grain and lighter bullets. Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. Extreme velocity spread for those loads was only 53 fps. By nearly every metric on the market, the 6.5 PRC is now the trendiest, best-selling precision hunting cartridge availableand for very good reason. Knowledge is the most precious Ackley created his first .17 caliber wildcat by necking down the .30 Carbine case. The catalog 100 yard velocity is 1900 fps and the 100 yard All are clean burning and temperature insensitive. Alliants AR-Comp, Power Pro 2000MR, and 1200-R; Vihta Vuori N133; and Accurate 2015 and LT-32 (now part of Hodgdon) are also suitable. My most accurate 222 rem. You are using an out of date browser. Reloading Data .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) Metallic - Load Data Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. 7mm Remington Magnum (Pet Loads) | Handloader Magazine ballistic coefficient (BC) of this bullet at .123. What It Is Not. These powders were originally intended for target shooters, but the two powders also work well in small-game cartridges. energy is 135 ft. lbs. Roundnose bullets that mimic factory loads are available from Hornady and Sierra. Since the .35 Rem. Today, the .35 Rem. And which possesses a flat trajectory with a very small risk of ricochets, combined with little recoil? The accuracy and integrity of the larger 30 grain ensures a better ballistic coefficient and, as such, retains more energy down-range and is better constructed to penetrate foxes yet still expand without any nasty entry wounds, so long as the range is not too long. recoil. They are also very safe to shoot since the bullets do not exit the carcase and ricochets are non-existent just right for around the farm. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Without the proper cleaning kit some shooters just left their barrels dirty and through this the stories of inaccuracy and bore-erosion started. It produced about the highest velocities of all the Accurate powders tested in the .223 with 40- to 60-grain bullets. The Remington 7 1/2 BR couldn't be match. Nevertheless, there was only a .5-inch difference between the groups shot with the three powders. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. most accurate 41 rem mag loads - Gunloads.com Hornady Accurate Arms was incorporated in McEwen, Tennessee, in 1980, after several years of selling surplus powders from the U.S. government. Thus, the judicious reloader should not try to soup up handloads. When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. I'm burning Tac and 25 gr VMAX in my old 17 Rem and it really shoots well. Shooting 20 of those cartridges is enough fun for a day. The .172 (not .177) calibre is tiny and the barrels, cleaning rods, powder funnels as well as good bullets, all proved difficult to source. Javascript is required. Favorite loads for your .17 Remington - PredatorMasters Forums Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at Log In ] Predator Masters Home Forums Hunting Reloading & Ammo Favorite loads for your .17 Remington Register User Forum List Calendar Active Topics FAQ Who's Online Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > Need some help, .17 fireball reload data | Shooters' Forum v-max, seated .020" off the lands. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. For decades, I burned every powder imaginable in the .35 Whelen with hopes of firing 250- grain bullets at 2,400 fps. Just because LVR was the best powder doesnt mean there werent other good performers. of sight. Its best use is for low-pressure, cast-bullet loads in the .223 on up to the .45-70. I recall wondering if close examination would have revealed several .375-inch holes the bears hide. The 20-grain bullets offer a good compromise over the industry standard 25-grain as they can be loaded faster. Kindler 30gr Gold bullets and RL-15 takes the .17 Rem to a new level of killing power. I load 44.5 grains of the powder with Sierra 50-grain BlitzKing bullets for the same velocity from the 26-inch barrel of a Winchester Model 70 Varmint. Introduced earlier this year, the 17 Fireball is based on a .221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. If the case is pulled off the stuck bullet, the powder charge will be spilled into the action. Westerns data guide shows 45.0 grains of the powder in the Swift firing a 50-grain bullet at 4,035 fps. and similar-sized cases is good ol H4895. When I began testing .22 Long Rifle rifles and ammunition for accuracy, good results were a two-inch group at 50 yards. It had a 24-inch heavy barrel. Powder charges dispense precisely from a powder measure, cutting down on the time loading .223s for the spring gopher campaign. that the averages below would have been smaller if testing had taken I find that the 25/06 can use any powder that falls between number 112 (IMR 4350) and number 137 (Retumbo) depending on the bullet weight. Top 5 Most Accurate Factory-Loaded Rifle Cartridges Today the problem is rectified by properly sourced kit but, as they say, mud sticks. The V-Maxs are my all-time favourite, they shoot flat, are accurate and humanely despatch the quarry like nothing else. A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. The 220-grain version is a great choice for heavier gameat modest ranges, of course. Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. 3100 fps. None of them ever did. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. I should add, that although the Berger's are a bit pricey, I think they are very much worth it. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. The new .20 calibres now coming on to the market, however, are very interesting and will be my next calibre to review. Gun: Thompson/Center Contender; barrel length: 26 3/4 inches (MGM); case: Remington; primer: Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle; bullet diameter: .172"; COAL: 2.150"; maximum COAL: 2.150"; maximum case length: 1.796"; trim to length: 1.786". Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington). The .35 Rem. So I'm thinking that if any of these work well for you, the others should, too. Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel. Hornady bullets registered 2,454 fps burning 51.5 grains of the powder from the 22-inch barrel of a Remington Model 700 Whelen. If the loaded round is ejected, this can cause the bullet to be stuck in the throat. the .17 HMR cartridge is very susceptible to the effects of wind, we All Rights Reserved. 4831 is the better powder for the 25/06. Moving up in powder capacity, the .17 Mach IV was introduced during the 1960s by Las Vegas gunsmith Vern OBrien, whose custom rifles were on the dainty Sako L46 action. Following are the Average Overall Group Size test results for the various .17 caliber rimfire rifles reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online (measured in inches). I shot LT-32 in two bolt-action .223 Remingtons and LT-30 and LT-32 in a CZ bolt-action 7.62x39. Last edited by obaro; 04/10/20 09:18 AM. Try 25 or 50 yards. from CCI, Federal, Hornady and Remington, the brands of ammunition most